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Proposals
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#Move Category:Ensigerum to Category:Ensigerum Order
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#Make a disambiguation page for [[Ensigerum]].
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#Refactor both pages to cleanly seperate the two historical contexts (Village v. Order).
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==Discussion==
Got a problem here, as in, some confusion between the Ensigerum and their village. Some sections from this article need to be moved and integrated into the [[Ensigerum Village|village]] article and vice verse.
Got a problem here, as in, some confusion between the Ensigerum and their village. Some sections from this article need to be moved and integrated into the [[Ensigerum Village|village]] article and vice verse.
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No, no, I was reffering to relocation after exodus, we just don't know yet where they lived for the interim five centuries or so. [[User:Elrond-halfelven|Elrond]] 14:46, 21 November 2007 (CST)
No, no, I was reffering to relocation after exodus, we just don't know yet where they lived for the interim five centuries or so. [[User:Elrond-halfelven|Elrond]] 14:46, 21 November 2007 (CST)
:That was the part that intrigued me.  What were the Ensigerum up to during that time?  Another thing that intrigued me as I was going back through some old strips, trying to understand the time line: just what is a [http://www.errantstory.com/archive.php?date=2006-08-18 temple] doing in the Ensigerum village?... -- [[User:Graybeard|Graybeard]] 22:04, 21 November 2007 (CST)
:That was the part that intrigued me.  What were the Ensigerum up to during that time?  Another thing that intrigued me as I was going back through some old strips, trying to understand the time line: just what is a [http://www.errantstory.com/archive.php?date=2006-08-18 temple] doing in the Ensigerum village?... -- [[User:Graybeard|Graybeard]] 22:04, 21 November 2007 (CST)
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Temples, churchs, and like places of worship, are a normal part of monastic life.
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:[[User:Slamlander|Slamlander]] 00:26, 22 November 2007 (CST)
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:Yeah, but what does the Ensigerum worship there?  That's the interesting question. -- [[User:Graybeard|Graybeard]] 09:02, 22 November 2007 (CST)
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In the Daoist monasteries, there is no real worship, as defined in Judeo-Christian terms. Temples may simply be places of learning and meditation. Only among deists do they become abodes of God(s) and Judeo-Christians are died-in-the-wool deists (BTW, Islam is a Western religion). This is why Daoism, Confucism, Buddhism, and other Asian philosophies, are so difficult to categorise in Western terms, they aren't really religions and their temples aren't the abodes of dieties.
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:[[User:Slamlander|Slamlander]] 17:00, 22 November 2007 (CST)

Latest revision as of 23:00, 22 November 2007

Proposals

  1. Move Category:Ensigerum to Category:Ensigerum Order
  2. Make a disambiguation page for Ensigerum.
  3. Refactor both pages to cleanly seperate the two historical contexts (Village v. Order).

Discussion

Got a problem here, as in, some confusion between the Ensigerum and their village. Some sections from this article need to be moved and integrated into the village article and vice verse.

Slamlander 07:03, 21 November 2007 (CST)

I'm working on it. Today's episode causes an interesting problem because of inconsistent information regarding the age of the village. It appears necessary to distinguish between the age of the order and age of the village, since we know (from Sarine's trash talking) the order has been around in some form since before the elves booted them out. It's going to take some time to sort this out. -- Graybeard 09:09, 21 November 2007 (CST)


This isn't a problem actually. They just relocated their seat of operations at one point for some undisclosed reason. I don't think this deserves any special attention beyond mentioning the age of the village. As far as the name of the village goes - lots of places of residence take the names of their occupants and for a long time it didn't really need a name since it was 'their' village and no outsider needed to distinguish it from other villages. Elrond 12:11, 21 November 2007 (CST)

Actually the reason is very much known; they were tossed out, of the elven territories, when the elves went into seclusion, at the end of the Errant War. Also, read the articles themselves, there could be much better seperation there.
---Slamlander 14:08, 21 November 2007 (CST)

No, no, I was reffering to relocation after exodus, we just don't know yet where they lived for the interim five centuries or so. Elrond 14:46, 21 November 2007 (CST)

That was the part that intrigued me. What were the Ensigerum up to during that time? Another thing that intrigued me as I was going back through some old strips, trying to understand the time line: just what is a temple doing in the Ensigerum village?... -- Graybeard 22:04, 21 November 2007 (CST)

Temples, churchs, and like places of worship, are a normal part of monastic life.

Slamlander 00:26, 22 November 2007 (CST)
Yeah, but what does the Ensigerum worship there? That's the interesting question. -- Graybeard 09:02, 22 November 2007 (CST)

In the Daoist monasteries, there is no real worship, as defined in Judeo-Christian terms. Temples may simply be places of learning and meditation. Only among deists do they become abodes of God(s) and Judeo-Christians are died-in-the-wool deists (BTW, Islam is a Western religion). This is why Daoism, Confucism, Buddhism, and other Asian philosophies, are so difficult to categorise in Western terms, they aren't really religions and their temples aren't the abodes of dieties.

Slamlander 17:00, 22 November 2007 (CST)
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